In this short video the pilot refers to it at about one and a half minutes in and we do a fly past. Can you gie me any information on the crash of a USAAF P47 Razor back THunderbolt near the Blackbrook Reservoir (Shepshed Leicestershire)Around the end of the second world war) ? Assigned To . http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/12924. Accident-Report.com Do the same as above. Has any body got any ideas? Staff Sergeant Leo L. Henry Nose Gunner. News releases mailed directly to U.S. newspapers made the group famous and caused great consternation among the B-17 groups. 93rd bomb group, 409th squadron. Added early history and statistics per http://www.usaaf.com/8thaf/bomber/93bg.HTM. Whether they produced battlefield images of the dead or daguerreotype portraits of common soldiers, []. Richard. Any information you may have I would be pleased to receive. Thank you for responding to my enquires. I was living in Orpington and in the winter of 1943 / 4 was taken to see a crashed B17 but not near Curry Wood. Subscribe to receive our weekly newsletter with top stories from master historians. - Knives Please select any of the units below to submit a research inquiry to WW2 Researcher Bill Beigel. A FABULOUS photo: click Just read American Hero the biography of Tommy Hitchcock who was instrumental in the development of the P51B Mustang equipped with the Rolls Royce Merlin engine. When Britainwent to waron 3 September 1939 there was none of the 'flag-waving patriotism' of August 1914. activated the same day. I lived there from 1955 70 and small pieces of aircraft were constantly being unearthed when the field just opposite the farm entrance was ploughed. Christmas celebrations during theSecond World Waroften had to be scaled down or adjusted as restrictions and shortages took their toll. dad was a tailgunner and radio operator from 9-1-44to 10-45.best mom remembers he was shot down over dewey france and the French resistance got them back to England. Object number: UPL 13224 - My ancestor Sarah Atkins is no known relative of the Burnaby Atkinses who have a large memorial tombslab in the churchyard. Object number: FRE 3748 - They claimed 3 U-Boats destroyed. While the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortresses did their share in the air war against Germany, they were far from alone in their efforts. Shows From Libya, the three Eighth Air Force Liberator groups began flying missions against targets in Italy, where Allied ground forces were making their way toward Rome. Pilots ordered the gunners to engage the flak towers while they hugged the ground to spoil the anti-aircraft gunners aim. Dedicated to the memory of those who served in the 93rd Bombardment Group (H) of the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF), known as 'The Travelling Circus', or 'Ted's Travelling Circus'. 'Air Force Combat Units of World War II' compiled by the Department of the US Air Force, edited by Maurice Maurer (1983). Since there were more B-17 than B-24 groups in England, tactics in the Eighth Air Force were built around the Flying Fortress. Bombardier, Co-Pilot, Engineer, Navigator, Pilot, Radio Operator. i am looking for info of 2 b17,s colliding over Braintree Essex around 1945 as i live not far from were the tail section fell the other B17 got back ok .I am looking for any info of details were the tail fell. Alconbury and Hardwick, England North Africa: Three Tours WWII Strategic Bombing 1942 - 1945 My Uncle and Aunt, Geoffrey and Mollie Pain, and I lived at Edgehill Stonehouse Road,Halstead, 1954 1968. During WW2 my aunt had had a colleague in the Day Nursery in Orpington, called Walton, whose father had the corn merchant business in Halstead. (Thanks to B24bestoweb). 93rd Bombardment Group In Memory Of 10. (Pre-Crash): For further information on how your data is collected and used, please read our Privacy Policy. The Squadrons, then, returned to Hardwick, U.K., on 27 Aug 1943, and flew missions from that station until the Group was sent back to the United States on 12 Jun 45. Thank you again. They participated in the famous mission against the oil targets at Ploesti, Romania. The 10-day mission turned out to be a 90-day deployment, with the group operating first from Tafaroui, then moving to Gambut. Weight: 56,000 lbs (25 UK tons, 25.4 tonnes). Does anybody know of any record of a B17 stationed at Parham crashing near Framlington Castle? Please does anyone have information concerning the aircraft crash in wetheringsett approx 1944. Personnel and group records to digital. ", (NB - The 93rd Pursuit Squadron was assigned to England in October 1917 and then sent to France where they finished their combat training at Issoudon near Paris. That was followed by a mission to Danzig on October 9 and a diversion for the famous B-17 mission against the ball bearing factories at Schweinfurt on October 14. Altogether, some 35,000 parachute and glider troops were involved in the operation. is 'bombed up' for its 28th mission from Hardwick, England Well done for all of this. On October 8, 1943, the 93rd went to Vegesack again. on a mission from North Africa in April 1943 and While the living conditions in Libya were atrocious, at least the crews encountered less fighter opposition there than over occupied Europe. A visit to his WWII gallery is I did try to look up the three survivors, and I was very surprised to see that James C. Hilty (listed as a survivor) actually died on that day, too. Im afraid I dont know Stonehouse Road very well. of bombs Comes to light. during the Normandy campaign by hitting gun batteries, rail lines, HQs Will also have a think about where else you might be able to find the information you need. It was N. of the Halstead- Badgers Mount roundabout road and east of Station Road. Data from Air Force Combat Units of World War II By Maurer, Maurer, Published 1986. I thought you might enjoy a different take on a crashlanding site and how its flying along now. Thank you again so much for responding! He and Jerstad jettisoned their bombs so that the mortally wounded B-24 would stay airborne just a few moments longer. I am following up a story of a B-24 that crashed near Swansea during the war with the loss of all hands. The aircraft was a B-17G Flying Fortress serial number 42-97236. Does anyone have any info on the crash of Liberator B24 j Shazam at Carrs Wood Costessey Norfolk on 7th March 1945. Was the B24 crash site opposite Rookery Farm, Walcott? Can anyone help? mistake, please stay and enjoy, then bookmark our url. I have been trying to find information for him but keep drawing a blank. Read more about Supporting the AALCM. I do have seven pictures of the crash site which were obtained from the website called To Honor Our Fallen. (Some nice drawings in this). It looks very different nowadays. Army Air Corps Library and Museum. B24 Liberator Audio and Video files at Marshall Stelzriede's Wartime Story site. The 'Market Garden' plan employed all three divisions of First Allied Airborne Army. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Even though there is a wealth of information online, its always good, like you have mentioned, to note that there are mistakes to wade through as well. Moved Hi 328th Bomb Squadron - 329th Bomb Squadron - 330th Bomb Squadron - 409th Bomb Squadron, Search Alphabetically: A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z |. Converted to A-26 aircraft in Dec Now the B-24 crews had a new threat to contend with, as if the deadly anti-aircraft fire and enemy fighters were not enough. Memorial at Hardwick Airfield. The group was credited with destroying three U-boats, including one sunk by the crew commanded by Lieutenant John The Jerk Jerstad, one of the groups most popular pilots. Object description Two B-24J Liberators (YM-I and YM-W) of the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group fly through heavy flak over Germany. This information means a great deal to me. The 20th Wing was one of three combat wings of B-24s that made up the Second Air Division, the only B-24 division of the Eighth Air Force. Be Good, the world-famous B-24D which disappeared It was flown to the U.S. Air Force Museum Finally, the three Eighth Air Force B-24 groups were allowed to return to England. Notice:Visitors may be filmed, photographed or recorded by the U.S. Air Force for educational and promotional uses, including for posting on public websites and social media. If you are interested in the full range of licenses available for this material, please contact the Media Sales & Licensing Team. Have been to 306th Museum but no details held. England. Granpa Towler sometimes officiated at Evensong at the Otford Lane Mission., after 1954. All went well as the formation, now down to 167 heavily laden bombers, flew onward. Sitemap with bomb load which exploded on a farm near Ingelmunster, have picture of dad with lt. Harold saviers crew,305thbomb group,365th squad,40th wing,1st bomb div,chelverston. The remainder were killed.. Sam_Martin used 'Maurer, Maurer, Ed., Air Force Combat Units of World War II. Downloading audio-visual for non-commercial offline listening or viewing. Just came across your website.Park Farm, Hoxne. shop at Park Corner which now sells logs and venison). There are (2523) servicemen of the 93rd BG in this archive. Extra fuel and a maximum load of bombs, ammunition and thermite sticks put each airplane well over the safe takeoff weight for a B-24. 93rd. 8th Air Force WWII 8AF HQs Bomber Groups Fighter Groups Stories About Newsletter Donate Contact 93rd Bombardment Group 328th Bomb Squadron - 329th Bomb Squadron - 330th Bomb Squadron - 409th Bomb Squadron Both Halstead pubs shut. Object number: UPL 14192 - 409th Bomber Squadron, 93th Bomber Group, Heavy | American Battle Monuments Commission 409th Bomber Squadron, 93th Bomber Group, Heavy Home 409th Bomber Squadron, 93th Bomber Group, Heavy Legacy ID 18566 Legacy Alias /db-abmc-burial-unit/409th-bomber-squadron-93th-bomber-group-heavy Legacy Source db_abmc_burial_unit Dana K. Wallace Read more HistoryNet.com is brought to you by HistoryNet LLC, the worlds largest publisher of history magazines. B-24 Liberator cockpit. The 93rd is also recognized as the most traveled group in the Eighth. Links Several were diversions, missions flown against less important targets to draw fighters away from B-17 formations. - Firearms* The three groups made up the 201st Provisional Combat Wing, commanded by Timberlake. Can anyone tell me which was the airfield in question (Boscombe Down, Ibsley?) I had an email yesterday from a contact in the states who will send me a picture of one of Shazams crew members so reducing the ones where I havent got a photo to three. Handwritten caption on reverse: 'B-24J's of 93rd BG/330 BS flying through flak on the way to Misturg. Did you obtain these from any particular source? As they approached Targoviste, Rumania, the 2nd initial point, 20 miles away from the 3rd initial point where the formation was to turn into a bomb run heading of 127 degrees, Compton led his formation in a turn. Im eager to keep going. He enlisted in the U.S. Army on September 13, 1944 at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The group became operational with the B-24 on 9 October 1942 by attacking steel and engineering works at Lille France. and comments may have been added. http://www.parhamairfieldmuseum.co.uk/390th-bomb-group/interesting-information-and-facts/. Compton, now a lieutenant colonel, remained in Africa to take command of a new B-24 group, the 376th Bomb Group. range, it was particularly suited for such missions 0 Reviews. 1. Have you ever seen the wreckage or heard stories about this particular crash? 93rd Bombardment RAF Glatton is about 6 miles south of the town of Peterborough. Constituted as 409th Bombardment Group (Light) on 1 Jun 1943 and Used A-20's in preparing for duty overseas. More than 18,000 Liberators were produced. any help appreciated. (U.S. Air Force photo). va said records were water damaged so thy were no help. Ive heard that some of the planes are still located where they fell. Heavy parts of the plane were said to be deeply embedded in the ground and were not recovered. On April 25, 1945, the Traveling Circus flew its last mission of the war, the 391st time that 93rd crews had faced the enemy. with 42-94969 on the 21 Sep 44 mission to Koblenz and crashing Maybe. Lee Cunningham 25-Nov-2015. 93rd bomb group, 409th squadron. Before that they were at oakdene on Rushmore Hill,Knockholt. There were no survivors from Hells Wench. I am looking into a crash that occurred during WW2 that happened near Kirkham village. (U.S. Air Force photo), This bomb-carrying panda squadron insigne decorated Lt. Howard F. Bolton's aviator jacket. RAF Glatton with some photos from when 457 BG was based there. [MORE], Home In mid-July, the three Eighth Air Force groups began practicing for a low-level mission against the Ploesti oil refineries, along with the 376th and 98th groups from the Africa-based Ninth Air Force. album. NOT the B24 that crashed on Freckleton school near what is now Bae Warton. If you have the tail number of the aircraft that would be helpful in identifying the wreck details. 36 then no. . - Strollers If ever this way look us up. WikipediA. Service Ceiling: 28,000 ft (33.5m). According to the plan drawn up by Major John Jerstad, now with the 201st Provisional Combat Wing, the 93rd would strike in two sections. - Diaper bags It was with the 457th Bomb Group and was on a bombing raid to Merseberg near Leipzig in Germany on 21 April 1944, probably to attack the oil refinery there. Though you cant see the cemetery in this view you will get an idea of the country your uncle flew over during the war. Pages 161-199 The C1 Auto-Pilot, and more Runway is approx 1km south east of that point. Hoxne and Park Farm on Ordnance Survey mapping. Object Number - FRE 5080 The tail markings have a dark, vertical stripe on the tails. 1944-1945. Hi i would like to know a little more.about the 2 B17 that collided over Braintree Essex UK 1945 10 march, Looking for information and photos of the crash(es) that took place Mar. Tidal Wave called for the 93rd to be the second group in the low-altitude formation, which would be led by K.K. Fourteen B-24s were lost on the mission, although none were from the 93rd. I used to have to walk to the pharmacy at Halstead to get Granmas prescriptions. It looks as though we have come to the end of the road regarding our research although I will continue to check the internet from time to time just in case any further info. Google search for more B-24 Liberator images. Youve provided me with a wealth of information, and Im eager to go through it more thoroughly. After a few days of rest for the pilots and repair for the planes, the Traveling Circus resumed operations on September 1. More Any help would be most greatly appreciated. B24 Liberator Audio Gordijnen maken cursus dactylodewaele. Dad used to talk frequently about the Packmans but I cannot recall why, Im assuming some of your family also lived in Halstead? First heavy bomber to fly 25 missions: B-24, 41-23728, Hot Stuff, 330Bomb Squadron Sgt Morris R. Walker, left waist gunner, survived This flight by the 93rd was the first nonstop flight across the North Atlantic by American bombers. In late February 1944, after several weeks of bad weather, the Eighth Air Force launched an all-out assault on the German aircraft factories during what came to be known as the Big Week. The 93rd went to Gotha on the 20th, then to Achmer on the 21st. Then, after the Afrika Korps was pushed out of Africa, the B-24s were sent against Italian targetsNaples, Palermo and Messina. The 93rd Bombardment Group was one of those Eighth Air Force units that operated the B-24 Liberator through the Second World War. This entry now includes information from the following contributors and sources: Hardwick, England. B-24 Liberators in formation, returning from mission. Chambers, to explode, Lieutenant! 1 Aug 43. to England, Feb-Mar 1944, and assigned to Ninth AF. The 409th Bombardment Group was a light bomber unit that served with the Ninth Air Force from April 1944 until the end of the war in Europe. Thanks. My father grew up in Hoxne, Suffolk and I still live in the area. Object Number - FRE 5084 Over the refineries, the ill-fated Liberator climbed to 300 feet so the crew could bail out, then fell off on one wing and crashed in a field. And heard talk of Douglas Blundell, and the people who lived at Colgates. History is who we are and why we are the way we are.. Other crews saw their leader take three more hits and burst into flames. Disclaimer, 8af.org, Copyright 2023, Army Air Corps Library and Museum, Inc., All Rights Reserved. and enjoy the experience. Colonel Fiegel had been with the 93rd in the United States and remained in command of the Traveling Circus until after D-Day. This is bound to be a typo, as Hoxne is over 60 miles from Glatton, which was the bomb groups base. I did a brief enquiry into the Ancestry Website and I see that Lt Reeds body was repatriated to the USA in 1948 and is buried at Benton Harbor Michigan but you may well know that. While the 93rd was in Africa, the group public relations officer, Corporal Carroll Stewart, began issuing news releases describing the outfits exploits, dubbing the 93rd the Traveling Circus. A newspaperman in civilian life, Stewart published The Liberator, the first overseas troop newspaper of the war. Involved 3 P-47s from the 352nd FG colliding in the overcast. On the 15th, they were sent to Chartres, where the 93rd was the only group to bomb the primary target. Returned to the US, Jun-Aug 1945. 409th Bombardment Squadron: 1942-1946 . B-24 Liberators in formation, returning from mission. (U.S. Air Force photo), Lt. Howard F. Bolton piloted a B-24J assigned to the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, England. which was found in the Libyan Desert in May 1959. Re; B-24 crash Swansea, South Wales area. Fairchild semiconductor corporation company info. His godson still lives in Curry Wood Gerald Brooks another well known and long-established Halstead family. Myself and a colleague have been metal detecting at Park Farm Hoxne for 15 years, in the early days we unearthed numerous fragments from the crashed aircraft, also included were many complete,bent and broken rounds of admonition. 641st: 1943-1945. Im eager to hear from you again. 93rd Bombardment Group , 482 Bombardment Group, 389 Bombardment Group, 11. The squadron is equipped with the Rockwell B-1B Lancer bomber. Graves. Hi again Roger In late June 1943 the Group was once again sent TDY to the 9th Air Force at Bengazi, Libya, for Operation Tidal Wave. Group Museum, Station 104, Hardwick, Norfolk, UK. Hello Richard, Serial Number: 42-72843 Branch of Service: Army Air Forces/Corps. Eighth Air Force . You live in a very nice part of the Norfolk coast.I am a Norfolk Dumpling myself although I now live in exile at Peterborough. Many other 93rd staff officers and squadron commanders were given command of new B-24 groups in the European Theater of Operations. Disclaimer, 8af.org, Copyright 2023, Army Air Corps Library and Museum, Inc., All Rights Reserved. Other times such the as the request about the P-47 above searches all end up pointing to the same very limited resource. Sitemap loaded Google search for more B-24 Liberator images. For the remainder of the war, the 93rd was involved in Eighth Air Force operations flying out of England. 643d: Some of the most important trucking missions were flown in support of General George Pattons Third Army during its breakout from Avranches and the subsequent dash across France. 2] Was a police officer in Cambs, Cambridge area, duty at Peterborough Football Club many times I retired in 95. Have you contacted the Neatishead Museum in Norfolk? They claimed 3 U-Boats destroyed. Because there was a vast amount of small fragments we decided to cease detecting on that field. Hi, do you have any information on any B17s from the 95th bomb Group, I am a committee member from this group and would like to research any information you have? Below; photo from the 457 Bomb Group Association showing some of the wreckage. As they got there, the fuel eventually ran out. The pilot tried to recover too fast, causing too much stress on the tail section which broke off at the tail wheel. Pages 105-121 Power Plant, and more Written on slide casing: 'B-24 Sandia Base, NW 1946, 409 BS, 93 BG.' Memphis Belle Aircraft Painting Pin Up Models Airplane Art The 93d was the first Liberator-equipped bomber group to reach the Eighth Air Force. CONSOLIDATED B-24D "LIBERATOR". 351st Bombardment Group (H) (Plaque) 351st Bombardment Group (H) (Monument) "Manhattan Maiden" - B-24 of the 374th Bomb Squadron. All Rights Reserved except for Fair Dealing exceptions otherwise permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. His aircraft took off from Glatton at 14:19 hrs on an operational mission. First Bomb Squadron (329th) to penetrate German airspace 2 Jan 43 Personal use for non-commercial research and private study and other uses under the UKs exceptions to copyright and those exceptions to copyright in place where the user is located. Each time we retrieved these items they were handed to the landowner who was aware of the crash site. Handwritten caption on reverse: 'B-24J's of 93rd BG/330 BS flying through flak on the way to Misturg. I am sure every USAAF crash site was photographed. Click here for frequently asked questions regarding items permitted inside the museum. Most traveled Bomb Group in 8th Air Force England, 7 Mar 1944; Bretigny, France, Sep 1944; Laon/Couvron, France, He was killed testing this aircraft on 18 April 1944 having taken off from an airfield near Salisbury heading for a dive bombing range. and occupied by sheep. After Big Week, the Eighth Air Force turned its attention toward the most important target in Germany: Berlin. 2nd Lt Edward T. Dunne Co-Pilot Have left a previous message which have all been sorted, however need any info re a B17 which crashed off the North Norfolk coast at Walcott-on-Sea, during the WW2. Sorry I cannot help Richard Storr but I am replying as I live in Walcott on North Norfolk coast and as local historian I researched the crash at 1329hrs on Sat 29th April 1944 of a B24 at Walcott the pilot 2nd Lt John Warner REED aged 26 was killed, all of the crew of 9 bailed out and survived. pix and vids to come. Unit stations People Aircraft Mission Login to Edit Revisions Date 17 Feb 2022 09:18:01 - Coolers Best of luck in your research. Missions were flown to Rotterdam, Antwerp, Brest and Bordeaux in the spring of 1943, along with several diversions for B-17 groups. Ground personnel of the 93rd Bomb Group work on a A B-24 Liberator (YM-M, serial number 42-50781) of www.2ndair.org.uk/digitalarchive/Dashboard/Index/50, http://www.usaaf.com/8thaf/bomber/93bg.HTM, http://www.93rdbombardmentgroup.com/historyfull.html, National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force. But I cannot find a list of the crew. site. Roger. "The Flyin' Moose" was a B-24J assigned to the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, England. Both Liberators were shot down. bomb group. Over the target, the German fighters bypassed the accompanying B-17s to concentrate their attacks on the B-24s. 8AF HQs; Bomber Groups; Fighter Groups; Stories; About; Newsletter; 93rd Bombardment Group. Stations. HistoryNet.com contains daily features, photo galleries and over 25,000 articles originally published in our nine magazines. Missions were flown in support of Allied troops in North Africa. Description Black & White photograph, taken from the waist turret of a Consolidated B-24D Liberator heavy bomber, of four United States Eighth Army Air Force B-24 Liberators flying in formation by the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, during World War II. Flew last mission on 3 May, attacking That part of the country is not the geographical area I usually cover, but I will take a look at the resources and books I have this evening and will get back to you if I find anything. The 93rd Bomb Group was one of the three 8th Air Force B-24 groups that were detached (TDY) and sent to North Africa in support of 12th Air Force on 12 Dec 1942. In the meantime join our Facebook group. I have very few books detailing losses in that area, particularly US losses, but I knew of a few places to look online! Contact
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